Are "Scarlet O'Hara" Morning Glory seeds chemically treated?

And what happens if you do eat treated seeds?

Are "Scarlet O'Hara" Morning Glory seeds chemically treated?
I hate to tell you this but Scarlett OHara is virtually useless if you're planning to ingest them. Only Heavenly Blues, Pearly Gates, and a few other varieties contain LSA.





To quote directly from the Morning Glory FAQ on www.Erowid.org ,


"To discourage use today, commercial seed producers treat the seeds with a poisonous coating which cannot be removed by washing. The effects from this coating cause nausea, comiting and severe abdominal pain. Extremely high doses cause psychotic reactions, heart failure and shock."





The seeds can be treated with anything from methyl mercury to thiram. Aside from causing nausea, vomitting and diarrheoa if you eat them, Thiram cannot be mixed with alcohol. It will induce an Antabuse type of reaction (vomitting, rashes etc.).





If it is not mentioned anywhere on the pack if they are treated, then they are not treated. If they are treated, then by law, it has to be stated on the pack. It will also state what the seeds are treated with (eg. Captan, Thiram, Methyl Mercury etc).





But if you are planning to eat these seeds for their psychedelic effect, then it doesn't matter if they are treated or not, you will NOT get any effect from Scarlet O'Hara.





Perhaps you could list out all the symptoms you are feeling and we can analyze whether your symptoms are from the chemicals or from a random cold or virus. And as far as nausea goes, regardless of whether or not they are treated, the seeds will cause nausea ingested. This is due in part to 2 other toxic chemicals present in the seed, one in the husk and one in the pulp. The one in the pulp is pretty mild and can be used to make soap. But the one in the husk can cause a 'strychnine' like effect. Usually, the seeds are pulverized and soaked in petroleum ether to remove this toxic chemical. But if you just ate the seeds raw, this strychnine-like effect (headache, blurred and 'fish-eye' vision) will be more pronounced, as will nausea.





Hope this helps. Drop me a line if you want more info or you want to discuss this further.
Reply:Turns out I caught strep throat. It could have been a coincidence or like I said, the seeds weakened my ammune system. I did look at erowid, and no the pack did not say they were chemically treated so that could not have been it. I got over the strep throat without antibiotics in about a week. Report It

Reply:I'm done with morning glory seeds though. If I ever decide to trip again, I'm just gunna spend a little more and get shrooms. And thanks for the information. Report It

Reply:If you're interested in them for their mind-altering effect, take a look at this website: www.erowid.org. It can tell you pretty much anything you'd want to know about anything.





If there is another reason to eat them, hmm...I dunno.





I think eating the seeds, untreated or not, could make your stomach upset for a while. Lots of things will do that, mind-altering or not. Not sure though, I don't think the chemicals would be good for your body.